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This week’s episode is a conversation with Demis Hassabis, the head of Google’s artificial intelligence division. We talk about Google’s latest A.I. models, Gemini and Gemma; the existential risks of artificial intelligence; his timelines for artificial general intelligence; and what he thinks the world will look like post-A.G.I.
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Credits
“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Davis Land and Rachel Cohn . The show is edited by Jen Poyant . Engineering by Chris Wood and original music by Dan Powell , Marion Lozano and Pat McCusker . Fact-checking by Caitlin Love .
Special thanks to Paula Szuchman , Pui-Wing Tam , Nell Gallogly , Kate LoPresti and Jeffrey Miranda .

